Productside Stories

2024 Benchmark Report With Robyn Brooks

Featured Guest:

Robyn Brooks | Former Director of Product at Productside
06/02/2025

Summary

In this episode of Productside Stories, host Rina Alexin talks with Robyn Brooks, Director of Product at Productside, about the 2024 Benchmark Report—a deep dive into the strengths, weaknesses, and growth opportunities across the global product management community.

Robyn shares her journey from high school English and Drama teacher to product leader, emphasizing how transferable and learnable product management skills can be. Together, Rina and Robyn unpack data from thousands of survey respondents to explore consistent trends in the profession.

They discuss why domain knowledge, communication, and customer understanding top the list of strengths, while competitive analysis, pricing, and end-of-life management remain growth areas. Robyn also reflects on leadership, process building, and how aspiring product managers can cultivate critical skills for advancement.

Listeners gain valuable insights into how benchmarking empowers teams, identifies skill gaps, and strengthens product organizations worldwide.

Takeaways

  • Domain knowledge remains the strongest product management skill across all industries.

  • Communication and customer understanding are vital to bridging gaps between teams and users.

  • Competitive analysis and pricing are key development areas for PMs.

  • End-of-life experience distinguishes senior PMs and strategic leaders.

  • A strong process orientation enables product maturity and cross-team alignment.

  • Curiosity and discovery drive innovation—even in legacy product portfolios.

  • Building organizational buy-in for product frameworks accelerates impact.

  • Leadership and strategy skills define the transition from IC to director roles.

  • PMs who focus on process and outcomes, not outputs, drive stronger results.

  • Product management success requires continuous learning and adaptability.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Welcome to Productside Stories
01:25 Robyn’s Journey from Teaching to Product Management
04:50 Why the Benchmark Report Matters to the Product Community
08:35 Strengths: Domain Knowledge, Communication, and Customer Understanding
12:10 The Common Career Paths into Product Management
15:42 The Challenges of Transitioning into Product Roles
19:20 Why Communication Is Half the Job of a Product Manager
22:45 Weaknesses: Competitive Analysis, Pricing, and End-of-Life Skills
27:30 Understanding End-of-Life Decisions in Product Portfolios
32:50 How Curiosity and Discovery Drive Skill Growth
37:40 Building Process and Structure for Product Maturity
42:00 Developing a Repeatable Product Management Framework
47:25 Hiring for Key Skills: Competitive Analysis and Requirements Writing
52:50 Moving from Individual Contributor to Product Leader
58:30 Building Strategy and Aligning with Business Outcomes
01:03:40 Advice for Aspiring Product Managers
01:07:10 Closing Thoughts and How to Connect with Robyn

Keywords

Robyn Brooks, Rina Alexin, Productside Stories, Productside Benchmark Report, product management skills, domain knowledge, communication, competitive analysis, end-of-life, leadership, product process, customer understanding, pricing strategy, discovery, product maturity, product career development, strategy alignment

Introduction and Welcome to Productside Stories

Rina Alexin | 00:00–01:25

Hello everyone, I’m **Rina Alexin** from **Productside**, and you’re listening to *Productside Stories*! Today is a special one — it’s our very first podcast episode, and I’m thrilled to launch it with a topic that’s near and dear to us: the **Productside Benchmark Report**.

I’m joined by our very own Robyn Brooks, Director of Product Management here at Productside. Robyn, welcome! I’d love for you to introduce yourself — and, of course, share how you found your way into product management.

Robyn Brooks | 01:25–04:50

Thank you, Rina. I’m **Robyn Brooks**, based in Portland, Oregon, and I’m the **Director of Product Management at Productside** — which honestly is the most fun job imaginable because I get to build products for product managers!

My career started in an unexpected place — as a high school English and Drama teacher. Like many of my peers, my path into product management wasn’t linear. I became fascinated with learning technology early on, moved into LMS administration, and before I knew it, I was leading product initiatives in education technology. Eventually, that journey led me to Productside, and I’ve loved every minute of it.

Why the Benchmark Report Matters to the Product Community

Rina Alexin | 04:50–08:35

I find that product management attracts people from all walks of life — and that’s part of what makes this discipline so fascinating. It’s also why we developed the **Benchmark Report** — to bring some science and structure to understanding what makes a great product manager.

Robyn Brooks | 08:35–10:10

Exactly. Each year, we collect insights from thousands of product managers across different industries and levels. The report highlights where professionals are thriving and where there’s room for growth. For me, it’s not just data — it’s a tool that helps me do my job better and support our community more effectively.

Strengths: Domain Knowledge, Communication, and Customer Understanding

Rina Alexin | 08:35–12:10

Let’s start with the positives — the top three strengths that consistently show up in the data are **domain knowledge**, **communication**, and **customer understanding**.

Robyn Brooks | 12:10–15:42

That resonates completely. Many product managers come from inside their industries — they’ve *been* the customer. That gives them empathy and an edge in understanding real-world needs. Domain expertise is often what sets early PMs up for success before they even realize they’re doing product management.

The Challenges of Transitioning into Product Roles

Robyn Brooks | 15:42–19:20

When I transitioned into product management, I had strong soft skills from teaching, but I lacked the technical foundation. So I dove in — learned basic JavaScript just enough to talk meaningfully with developers — and focused on **translating technical speak into business terms**. That skill of translation became my superpower.

Weaknesses: Competitive Analysis, Pricing, and End-of-Life Skills

Rina Alexin | 22:45–27:30

Every report also identifies areas for growth. Year after year, **competitive analysis, pricing, and end-of-life** appear as the weakest skill dimensions.

Robyn Brooks | 27:30–32:50

That’s true — and I think part of it is exposure. Not every PM gets to lead a pricing strategy or sunset a product. Those are experiences that usually come with seniority, and you can’t fully understand end-of-life until you’ve lived it.

How Curiosity and Discovery Drive Skill Growth

Robyn Brooks | 32:50–37:40

If you’re managing legacy products, be curious. Get friendly with finance, analyze support costs, and make a case for whether the product still delivers value. It takes courage — but that’s how you build experience and prove strategic thinking.

Building Process and Structure for Product Maturity

Rina Alexin | 37:40–42:00

That connects to process — our report also shows that PMs who work within structured frameworks perform better across the board.

Robyn Brooks | 42:00–47:25

Absolutely. Process gives teams alignment and predictability. Even if your organization doesn’t have formal product frameworks, you can start small — document your workflows, share templates, and communicate the “why” behind your approach. That transparency builds trust and credibility.

Moving from Individual Contributor to Product Leader

Robyn Brooks | 52:50–58:30

Leadership often comes from taking on tough projects — the “grenades” that no one else wants. When you take ownership, align stakeholders, and deliver results, you naturally build a reputation as someone who can lead.

Advice for Aspiring Product Managers

Robyn Brooks | 01:03:40–01:07:10

Product management is a broad, rewarding discipline. You don’t have to master every skill, but you should know where your strengths and growth areas lie. Take assessments, seek mentorship, and build intentional experiences.

Closing Thoughts and How to Connect with Robyn

Rina Alexin | 01:07:10–End

Robyn, thank you for joining and sharing your wisdom.

Robyn Brooks | End

Thank you, Rina! This was such a fun conversation. You can find me on **LinkedIn** — I love connecting with product managers and hearing their stories.